ann-mauriii:

image

Wei Wuxian, head disciple of Yunmeng Jiang sect, master of six arts, son of Cangse Sanren and Wei Changze.

Age of Yi City Arc Characters during Different Key Events

thewickling:

This is unrelated to the MDZS timeline which has its own age list for characters on thelast chapter. These meta do the broadest set of ages.

Also posted to AO3 if that is more your jam.

A-Qing

A-Qing is “possibly younger than fifteen-years-old” (Grasses, Part Six) when she meets Xiao Xingchen. When we meet her ghost, she is described as “fifteen or sixteen” (Grasses, Part Four). Taking a little under 15 as 14 and the higher end of the second description, she knew Xiao Xingchen from 14 to 16 which is 3 years. This also lines with the descriptions of knowing Xue Yang a couple or few years.

The only event year we can certainly place her in that she meets Xiao Xingchen within a close period to the massacre of Baixue Temple. This is due to the fact that Xiao Xingchen has red marks on his bandages (Grasses, Part Seven). Since he “would bleed whenever he had excessive thoughts or emotions” (Grasses, Part Nine) and Xiao Xingchen has no reason to be upset when he meets A-Qing, the meeting occurs directly after Xiao Xingchen leaves Baoshan Sanren’s mountain. Because her actual age is unclear, she could have died the year she would turn 17 but long before her birthday, creating wriggle room of a several months.

Xiao Xingchen and Xue Yang

For these characters determing their age is a little tricky but here are the conditions that must be satisfied:

  1. The year after the First Siege on the Burial Mound Xiao Xingchen must exit the Baoshan Saoren’s mountain at 17 (Dew, Part Three).
  2. Xue Yang is “even younger than Xiao Xingchen” when he was captured (Dew, Three)
three paragraphs of meta that neatly summarize all the headaches XY caused me )

Xiao Xingchen’s death

Now for Xiao Xingchen’s death. The low range would be based on meeting A-Qing the same year as he captured Xue Yang so add 3 for 21.

read more )

A-Qing’s Age relative to XXC

So, A-Qing died at 16. To get an accurate different we must also consider that she may have died the year she would have turned 17. So taking the lower and higher rangers, subtract A-Qing’s highest range from Xiao Xingchen’s lower range and vice versa to get 4 to 7 year difference.

Xue Yang’s death

Xue Yang dies during the Yi City Arc that occurs 13 years after Wei Wuxian dies. Since we establish he was 18 a year after Wei Wuxian dies, then he was 29 or 30 at death.

To summarize, Xue Yang and Xiao Xingchen are born in the same year with Xiao Xingchen having a first half of the year birthday and Xue Yang having a latter half of the year.

  • Gusu Exchange: XY & XXC: 9-10 | AQ 2-6
  • Discussion Conference at Qishan: XY & XXC 10-11 | AQ 3-7
  • Start of Sunshot Campaign: XY& XXC 11-12 | AQ 4-8
  • Night-hunt at Phoenix Mt.: XY & XXC 14-15 | AQ 7-10
  • First Siege of the Burial Mounds: XY & XXC 16-17 | AQ 9-13
  • Died: XXC 21-23 | AQ 16
  • Second Siege of the Burial Mounds: XY 29-30


comment count unavailable comments
AO3 | dreamwidth | ko-fi me |Tumblr

Wei Wuxian’s Cultivation Method

tamingwangxian:

We were asked a series of questions pertaining to Wei Wuxian’s cultivation that were fairly interesting.  We’ve decided to sum up the contents of our reply here. (This reply occurred over a series of messages so I’ve rearranged the answers and questions it to the best that I can) 

  1. What would be the most appropriate form to address Wei Wuxian’s cultivation?  Should it be called the “devil/monster path 魔道 (Mó dào)” or the “ghost path / 鬼道 (Guǐ dào)?  And how does that apply in the context of the book? (妖魔鬼怪 (yāo mó guǐ guài) was the term that Lan Qiren used describe the various creatures in the novel)
  2. If he’s not using the “devil/monster path/ 魔道”, then how does 邪 (xié mó wāi dào]) and 邪(xié mén wāi dào) come into play?  This phrase has been used by various characters (ie. Jin Zixuan) to describe his mode of cultivation.  

To answer question 1, you’d need to revert back to Chapter 13 of the novel.

This was in chapter 13: 

 "我问你,妖魔鬼怪,是不是同一种东西 / “I’ll ask you this; are yao, mo, gui, guai the same thing?”

” 魏无羡笑道:“不是。” / Wei Wuxian smiled as he replied, “‘No, they aren’t.”

“为何不是?如何区分” /  “How are they different? How can they be differentiated?”

“妖者非人之活物所化;魔者生人所化;鬼者死者所化;怪者非人之死物所化.” / “Yao are created from non-human living beings; Mo are created from humans; Gui are created from the deceased; Guai are created from dead non-humans. ” 

 This exchange occurred when  Lan Qiren questions Wei Wuxian on the classification of monsters, of which the book establishes that 魔 (Mo - devil/monster) from living (humans), and 鬼 (Gui - ghost) from the deceased (humans). Hence, based on this definition, as he’s only shown to animate the dead (humans) in the novel, it’s quite safe to say that he’s practicing 鬼道. (Ghost path.)  C-fans have an additional meta that Wei Wuxian himself is a living person, so in terms of classification, he can only be classified as someone who is a “魔 (Mo - devil/monster)” (from a living person), practicing the “ghost” path. (ie. resurrecting the dead).  To confirm this theory, “魔道 - devil/monster path” has only been mentioned once in the novel, 鬼道.- Ghost path” has been used 12 times.  Wei Wuxian himself has also addressed that he “修鬼道” (cultivates the ghost path).  

(As a note, 妖魔鬼怪 itself is a general idiom that refers to all beings that are seen to be evil. MXTX takes the idiom apart in the context of this novel)

Onto Question 2 (You might need to understand Chinese to fully appreciate this but I’ll try to explain it anyway).

邪魔歪道 itself is a common idiom which traditionally means to “stray from the traditional (or orthodox) path” [baidu dictionary definition] but it could also mean demonic/evil ways.  This phrase is also commonly used in Buddhism teaching.  “魔” in modern Buddhism loosely refers to Mara, a demon that claims lives and obstructs good deeds.  The other term 邪门歪道 is a synonym of the former but without the religious connotations. 

So here something that’s very interesting - this manner of which interpretation is used seems to depend on what the user is thinking.  In Chapter 7 (footnote 7) Wei Wuxian has interestingly referred to his type of cultivation as “the cultivation method that he practiced in the past.”  Also, in Chapter 14, when questioned by Lan Qiren, Wei Wuxian brings up the idea of a “fourth” source of power (ie. ghost path); and he questions as to why resentful energy can’t be used as a reservoir of power.  From this, we can actually infer that Wei Wuxian feels that it is a source of unorthodox power, but not necessarily evil. 

Contrarily, it’s obvious that the rest of the characters deem that his methods are downright evil.  So hence, they would interpret idiom as demonic/evil ways.

Interestingly though,  it seems like 邪魔歪道 were used by people in the “orthodox” clans - Jiang Cheng, Jin Ling, Jin Zixuan, etc. On the other hand, 邪门歪道 was used by Xue Yang and WWX. In the same way that 邪魔歪道 is more closely linked to religious teachings, the unorthodox is deemed as “evil”, hence the term 邪魔歪道 becomes a more fitting term used by those in the orthodox camp.

References (they’re all in Chinese):
(1) Definition of 魔,(2) Definition of 邪魔外道,(3) Definition of 邪门歪道 (4) Definition of 妖魔鬼怪 (4) Chinese Meta - Wei Wuxian is a central character in MDZS, why is he on the 鬼道 (ghost path) and not the 魔道 (devil/monster) path?

thejhambs:

Demonic Cultivation techniques in MDZS

(cleaned up a bit from my twitter thread on this, and inspired by @lovepsychothefirst’s amazing meta on demonic cultivation and empathy)

According to MDZS canon, the three traditional ways of dealing with a resentful spirit are liberation, suppression, and elimination, each respectively more drastic. Demonic cultivation is placed forth by WWX as a fourth path, a bit more complex, but also a more effective one.

Keep reading

Wei Wuxian and Empathy

lovepsychothefirst:

I keep putting this aside (because my brain is easily distracted) but here it is; my post about demonic cultivation and how Wei Wuxian’s relies on Empathy.

This is why no one can match him in power too.

First off we got to acknowledge that this has nothing to do with CQL. It cannot apply because it is not demonic cultivation being used. Demonic cultivation can also be referred to as gui cultivation.

“Yao are created from non-human living beings; Mo are created from humans; Gui are created from the deceased; Guai are created from dead non-humans. ”

-Taming Wangxian translation, ch13

In other words, it’s necromancy. Which doesn’t exist in The Untamed because of censorship. No undead or ghosts there in the series. Just ghoul puppets who are living people transformed by “evil energies”.

The second thing to note is that MDZS is not, actually, in Wei Wuxian’s POV. We get his POV the most but we see others plenty of times and the narration often actually goes along with “common knowledge” in a subtle way. MDZS is in third person.

This is because of a fact that’s too easy to forget; Wei Wuxian not being the villain is meant as a plot twist. Thanks to it being a Late Arrival Spoiler and The Opening of CQL, everyone knows he’s heroic.

But the original intention of the novel is to trick the audience while throwing breadcrumbs and hints of it being otherwise. It gives MDZS a great re-read bonus (especially if you don’t know Lan Wangji has liked Wei Wuxian since youth; if you look at his actions in isolation from the genre in the past he definitely doesn’t come across as liking Wei Wuxian!).

So Wei Wuxian’s narration isn’t unreliable. He conceals things, hides things with sarcasm and jokes, and has a few rare things he downplays, but he’s not full on “unreliable”. He tells the truth, his own truth. You gotta watch for the fact a lot of what people say is not actually supported by the narrative. A big example is what people say immediately after Jiang Yanli’s death (chapter 78). It’s one of the biggest things that is basically shaking the reader saying do not trust the words of the NPCs, pay attention to the events around said words. Wei Wuxian and Lan Wangji’s words, in comparison to the rest of the cast, are the ones speaking true. Though both of them carefully “prune” their words even so when it comes to certain topics.

With that out of the way, let’s talk about demonic cultivation and how it’s shown to be an empathic path within the text!

Keep reading

Anonymous asked:

Your thoughts on resentful energy actually affecting the body and mind? It's not canon ofc, it's the PTSD for WWX but people have used it for the Angst tm

vrishchikawrites Answer:

I think saying resentful energy affects the body and mind diminishes the narrative a little. It also takes the blame away from surrounding factors and places it on a fantasy plot element. By taking blame away from surrounding elements, they excuse those elements and soften their role

If you take away resentful energy - things that happened would still happen. Say if WWX had his ‘traditional cultivation’ and had grown powerful enough to match his power as the grandmaster of demonic cultivation. If people acted in the same way as canon, intimidated by WWX’s power, committing war crimes against the Wens, etc, I feel like the events could still progress similarly. WWX would be pushed into a corner and forced to retaliate every time.

But if you remove all of the human actors and keep the resentful energy, the situation doesn’t play out similarly. If people didn’t commit war crimes, JC didn’t betray WWX, they didn’t keep attacking WWX, logically, given WWX’s character and canon events, there’s every indication that he’ll just live on with his cultivation method.

There’s a whole lot of room for angst even if you don’t focus on resentful energy. WWX took a hard moral stance and the society turned on him for it. Every interaction after that has potential for angst.

Unfortunately, to explore the angst, you’ll have to closely examine the actions of the people involved. That includes JC, JYL, JGS, JGY, LXC, NMJ, and even LWJ.

JC’s part in the entire mess is something you can’t ignore. At All. But when you blame resentful energy for everything, you have a way of softening JC’s sins and say 'WWX would’ve gone mad or evil eventually bc of resentful energy’ JC still remains unforgiveable to a perceptive reader, but people who want to show him and the others in even a slightly positive light now have an excuse.

None of it stands up to scrutiny when you consider that WWX lived relatively peacefully between the first Qiongqi Path incident and JL’s ceremony incident. That was a few years - perhaps two years - given that JYL got married, became pregnant, and had a child between the two incidences.

Resentful energy probably didn’t make it easier for WWX - I remember someone writing an amazing meta that WWX used empathy in demonic cultivation - which could maybe have some emotional impact but I’m not really convinced it does. (I’m gonna look for that meta and add it here soon because omg that was amazing)

So tl:dr - I believe resentful energy is a shortcut and an excuse. People use it because they want to soften the role and culpability of characters like JC, JGS, JGY, and a few others to a lesser extent.

vrishchikawrites:

rynne:

The dangers of assumptions is a theme in this story, and a big part of MDZS is about deconstructing the assumptions made about WWX. We are consistently provided with an assumption society makes about him and then told or shown the reality. WWX betrayed the Jiangs, the Wens destroyed Lotus Pier because of WWX, WWX was too arrogant to use his sword, WWX was building an army in the Burial Mounds, WWX remembered LWJ’s love confession and was just playing with him after his resurrection…all of it wrong. People almost never make an accurate assumption about WWX.

The impact of resentful energy on WWX’s state of mind is another assumption, and like the rest, it is also wrong.

We do not actually see connections drawn between WWX’s use of resentful energy and a decline in his mental state. The war aside, the times WWX actually uses resentful energy do not really match up with a deterioration in his temperament.

At Phoenix Mountain, WWX draws on his resentful energy to hunt. Almost immediately afterwards, he gets forcefully kissed by an unknown person without his consent when he’s specifically been saving his first kiss. Does he attack or otherwise react with anger? Even though that would be appropriate for the situation and he has literally just been using resentful energy? No. WWX struggles, then realizes the person is trembling, and decides that this is obviously very important to “her” and he’ll let “her” do it. His response is kindness to an unknown random person who kissed him without consent.

On the other hand, he gets really goddamn angry the banquet when he’s trying to find Wen Ning, including using death threats to make his point, but there’s no indication that he’s using resentful energy here (just threatening it, by putting his hand on Chenqing) or that he had used it recently. He even starts off the scene being very polite, and his temper only rises as the situation escalates, just as anyone’s temper might rise. His reaction is not disproportionate.

In both his first and second lives, proximity to resentful energy and its use does not seem to have any negative effect on his temperament. He uses it, presumably a lot, in the Burial Mounds to protect the settlement, yet he’s shown to be no more volatile then than he was before he lost his core. He uses it periodically in his second life and continues acting just the way he was before.

All of WWX’s deteriorations in temperament can more easily be attributed to circumstances than to resentful energy. He’s probably at his worst when he returns from the Burial Mounds, but this is immediately after everything involved in the fall of Lotus Pier and its aftermath. He picks fights with JZX, but only in response to JZX being a dick to JYL. In his encounters with Jin Zixun, his anger only really rises as the situation escalates, which would be normal for anyone. And so on.

I guess to some extent this is subjective, but to me, he never feels disproportionately volatile to the situation. He’s not angry when the situation doesn’t call for anger, and when it does, his temper tends to rise only as the situation escalates or when things are just immediately terrible.

Basically, I don’t really see an indication in the text that resentful energy does have an impact on him.

So, in addition to the great points vrishchikawrites made, I think this kind of thing is also something that benefits from close reading. What kind of evidence does the text show of how resentful energy might influence WWX? Personally, I don’t really see any evidence that it does.

I think this is a more reasonable assumption than most about WWX, but in the end, it is an assumption that people are making, not a fact of the story. As with the other assumptions characters make about him, looking into this one further deconstructs it.

Excellent addition👏👏👏

grewlikefancyflowers:

Liberation, suppression, obliteration - Does modao prevent souls from reincarnating?

There seems to be a persistent idea that WWX’s cultivation prevents souls from reincarnating - even after he’s done using them. Not only is this not ever stated in the novel, it seems to be directly contradicted by the lore laid out by MXTX.

WWX isn’t the one preventing souls from reincarnating - he makes use of the souls that are already tied to earth for their own reasons. He explains this himself in chapter 14 - ‘“If some people’s suffering can’t be relieved, why not make it useful?“’

Also explained in chapter 14, is that cultivators have a neat little 3-step method of dealing with fierce corpses - liberation, suppression, and obliteration - LWJ himself sums this up -

‘“First, release the spirit from suffering. Second, suppress it. Third, eliminate it. For the initial approach, use the loving memory of his parents, wife, and children to comprehend his deepest desires and fulfil them. If this fails, move to suppression. But if the crimes are too great and his resentment too bitter to dissipate, eliminate him root and branch; his continued existence must not be permitted. Cultivators must conduct themselves carefully in accordance with this sequence of measures, without error.”’

Since the reason for souls lingering is often related to a violent death, awakened corpses are often violent too, the final wish being a desire for revenge, so the liberation step is often not deemed as an option, but there are some exceptions. A nice example of a (mostly) non-violent corpse being liberated can be seen in the Gatecrashing extra. Suppression seems to be the most opted for method, an example is the calming song wangxian play for NMJ’s fierce corpse everyday. It does not allow the soul to move on, but does stop it from causing havoc. When the resentment is too strong to be suppressed, it must be destroyed entirely. Considering this is an absolute last resort, I think we can assume this method actually would perma-kill the soul. Presumably this would be done by burning and scattering the ashes, which was how Wen Ning was supposedly killed by the Jins.

As WWX explains in chapter 14 with the executioner example, and as we can see as readers in his actions throughout the novel, his method of handling fierce corpses more often than not falls under the first category - liberation.

The Mo family die a violent death by NMJ’s hand, in chapter 5, WWX stirs up their resentment, allowing them to enact revenge. They don’t finish the job, and LWJ shows up and suppresses both them, and NMJ’s hand, but according to the rules set out in chapter 14, by this method, if they were able to have their revenge, their souls should be able to move on.

He also controls the corpses of the Chang family in chapter 30, who were still lingering due to their violent death and awoke due to Su She’s interference in the graveyard. WWX did not wake them from death, he was using what was already there, and allowing them to attack a trespasser in their resting place.

He follows the same pattern when he raises Wen Ning’s corpse, having his revenge against the Jin guards. On the subject of Wen Ning, he’s WWX’s friend, if making him into a fierce corpse prevented him from ever reincarnating, he of course wouldn’t do it.

Additionally, in chapter 67, WWX, LWJ, and Wen Ning re-bury the corpses JGY had reanimated. Though he rips the corpses apart, he doesn’t destroy their souls, some body parts are stated to still be moving. He takes care to keep their body parts together, and apologises to them in case he got any of them mixed up. Although their resentment had been roused, and they’d been violently torn apart by Wen Ning, he is still taking care to bury them nicely again, so that their souls may rest. He is also still sticking to the rules in supressing them, rather than obliterating them. If being reanimated and controlled made resting peacefully and reincarnating afterwards impossible, why would he bother? This also seems to be just standard practice for him and WWX, and considering how we see WWX being generally respectful, even caring and gentle with corpses, this idea that he is carelessly ruining their chances of reincarnation is one that I just do not buy.

WWX’s use of demonic cultivation is very much a breaking of social taboos, rather than causing objective harm to anyone’s souls. This factor is important thematically, as it ties in with the exploration of class and power in MDZS, with regards to how WWX’s cultivation is seen as a great asset during the SSC, and a corrupt deviation from the norm afterwards, when those in power are feeling threatened by WWX. Those with power dictate when rules can be broken, and when they cannot, and who can get away with breaking them, which is a recurring theme in MDZS, and WWX is only one of the characters used to illustrate it.

deistarr:

simgrim-art:

image

That’s how nmj sealed his fate😔

The thing that gets me, is when people try to justify MY killing the guy. The novel clearly states that it was not just the murder; it was the cold, blank expression on MY’s face, and the very blatantly pre-meditated way he arranged to kill the guy using an enemy weapon and enemy fighting style that scared NMJ.

That’s right - it SCARED NMJ.

It wasn’t just about anger - it was horror; because the murder was so very clearly pre-meditated, cold-blooded, and very carefully planned and executed. And the way MY completely convincingly reacted and totally did a 180° turn when he saw NMJ terrified him; because he realised that MY could have done this any number of times before, and he never would have suspected. That it was only because he watched it happen that he had any way of ever even suspecting MY was capable of something like that. And because MY was so clearly remorseless and callous about taking the life of someone who was nominally an ally.

It wasn’t even about the guy being one of HIS soldiers; because the man MY killed was actually a JIN.

THIS HAPPENED AFTER MY HAD ASKED FOR AND RECIEVED A TRANSFER TO FIGHT UNDER THE JIN SECT FORCES.

NMJ had asked after MY when he spoke with JGS; and when JGS pretended not to know what he was talking about, he went looking for MY to make sure he was alright and offer him his position in Qinghe back.

He stumbled over MY murdering his commanding officer because he was looking for MY to apologize to him for JGS’s unfair treatment of him, and to offer to reinstate him to his position as NMJ’s deputy; a position of power and respect.

NMJ had promoted him and protected him against everyone and anyone who slandered him for his background. He went against convention to elevate someone based on merit rather than birth, and chose to trust someone of low status with a high position.

THAT was why NMJ felt so betrayed.

It wasn’t because the dead man was one of his men; it wasn’t even just because it was an ally. It was because he trusted MY when everyone else thought him a fool for doing so, and the fact that MY was making NMJ’s assurances of his good character a lie. It was because MY committed cold-blooded murder without passion - not out of anger or a loss of control; but with clinical calculation - and was able to fake emotions so well NMJ only knew he was lying because he saw it happen with his own eyes.

Even then, he was still willing to give MY a chance. When MY protested going to trial; saying that his status meant he wouldn’t be given a fair chance, NMJ promised to protect him and personally ensure he was judged fairly. He had already decided that he wasn’t ready to give up on MY; but he didn’t want to let him get away with his actions completely, either. He intended to take responsibility for MY and make sure that he faced consequences, but was also given another chance.

MY just didn’t want to face any consequences at all.

JGY was a villian; and if you like him, it should be because he’s a complex and compelling villian - not because you want to project all kinds of bizarre and uncharacteristic motivations and ideals onto him and make him out to be a victim.

I’m sorry if you’re looking for a working-class hero to elevate; but MDZS isn’t about that. WWX was much more of a working-class hero than JGY was. And the story wasn’t actually focused on that at all.

If you’re looking for character who qualifies as a working-class hero; I’m sorry - but MY/JGY is not the droid you’re looking for.

NMJ DID NOT GET ANGRY ABOUT MY MURDERING THAT MAN BECAUSE HE HATED MY. HE WAS SCARED OF WHAT MY WAS CAPABLE OF, BECAUSE HE SAW BENEATH THE MASK AND REALISED THAT MY WAS A PSYCHOPATH. HE WAS ANGRY BECAUSE HE’D TRUSTED HIM SO MUCH, AND HE FELT LIKE SUCH A BLIND FOOL FOR IT. BUT HE WAS STILL WILLING TO GIVE MY ANOTHER CHANCE TO BE BETTER. MY WAS THE ONE WHO THREW THAT AWAY.

Please stop looking for reasons to make NMJ seem unreasonable for being scared shitless by the realisation that someone he trusted and thought highly of was capable of remorseless, premeditated murder; regardless of the reason for it.

He’s not perfect by any means, and no; he doesn’t completely understand the struggles of the lower classes. But unlike most of the the rest of the gentry, NMJ actually tried. MY took advantage of that, and burned him.

Tell the rest of the lower classes that NMJ will be wary of trusting too much in the future, that the man who personally made the previously open-minded sect leader feel very ‘once-bitten, twice-shy’ about trusting any of them again, is a working class hero. Please.

deistarr:

withinsnow:

grewlikefancyflowers:

on the subject of if it was morally wrong or not for WWX to dig up corpses…

I think what we’re supposed to take from it is, we see people in MDZS murder innocents and dump their corpses in a blood pool, scatter their ashes so they can’t reincarnate, skip straight to the obliteration stage of dealing with fierce corpses, use the dead to guard their sabre halls, rob graves for riches, dismember enemies,

then turn around and call WWX evil for using them to help win their war.

For every moraly ‘dubious’ thing wwx gets criticized for in the narrative, there’s always somebody else doing something like it that gets a free pass. Wwx’s modao for example isn’t that different from the nie’s use of resentful energy to cultivate their sabers, yet it’s wwx doing 'heretic’ and 'dangerous’ arts despite the massive consequences nie cultivation has. At the phoenix mountain hunt wwx is selfish and arrogant for taking a majority of the prey, yet people overlook how nmj also hunted a majority of the prey. At nightless city the sects break their promise to absolve wwx and the other wen remnants of their guilt if they got wn and wq, they attack wwx first, then act scandalized when wwx defends himself.

This and more highlight the hypocrisy of the sects. Whatever methods or actions are not bad unless there’s somebody of a lower status doing it or it upsets the people in power.

This is very true.

Now, part of why the general population was so horrified by that aspect of things was cultural - disrespecting the dead/descrating corpses was one of the ultimate taboos. But I’m pretty sure I remember reading that WWX would always liberate them after he was done with them. One of the things with his demonic cultivation was giving the dead their opportunity to take revenge on either those that killed them, or those who acted similar to the ones that killed them; so they could release the resentment keeping them trapped. His use of resentful energy to control them in order to satisfy his own desire for vengence was, in some respects, a two-way street.

The Wen soldiers he turned against their allies were an exception there.

There’s also the fact that he only ever dug up corpses during the war; up until Nightless City. The rest if the time, he just called on resentful spirits that were already around.

Even with Wen Ning at Qiongqi Path; WN wasn’t buried - his body was just lying out in the open to rot with a flagpole stuck through his gut. And during the ambush later on, they cleared out all of the corpses ahead of time and cleansed the area of resentful energy. So he didn’t do it then, either.

But of course, none of the righteous cultivators who were spreading rumours about him could be bothered to mention any of that.

So the common people had no way of knowing that he wasn’t actually going around digging up corpses everywhere he went and denying the dead any chance to reincarnate. As far as they knew, any and all of their deceased friends and loved ones were in constant danger of WWX doing that to them.

Most of the cultivators knew better; but most of them were either jealous or afraid of his power. Rumours did the rest.

What @plan-d-to-i said about church vrs. science is also very relevant.

I have a whole essay floating around somewhere explaining how in many ways, MDZS can also be seen as the story of an ancient scientist who cracked open a whole new field of study during a life-and-death situation; who then continued to research and document his theories and discoveries, despite direct opposition from those in power - and was eventually killed for it.

(Because in a world where the supernatural exists; where people have powers and golden cores… studies of spiritual and/or resentful energy would be valid scientific fields. Therefore the development of demonic cultivation was technically a scientific break-through, and WWX pioneered a whole field of study. Ergo - WWX was an ancient warrior-scientist who was killed for heresy by people in power who felt threatened by the ideas he proposed and theories he proved.)

MDZS’s social commentary is not just about his low status. He and his radical ideas were also a massive threat to the status quo; and therefore to the power of the church sects.

lumiink:

Ah I’m so excited to finally be able to post this piece for the @mdzsrbb! Much love to my incredible author partner @vrishchikawrites for her fic A secret never shared, which, oh goodness, blew my lil socks right off! Please check out this amazing God!WWX AU with the link to the fic in the replies!


Indy Theme by Safe As Milk